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Point Of Grace: I Choose You

Award winning and platinum-selling Word recording artist Point of Grace is set to release their first full studio project in 3 years on October 12th, with "I Choose You".

Showcasing a reenergized sound as well as new member Leigh Cappillino (former Truth vocalist and worship leader for Women of Faith conferences replaced original member Terry Jones this spring), the girls of Point Of Grace are more excited about this project "I Choose You" than just about any previous CD they've made over the past 11 years.

The decision to add Leigh to their ranks brought with it an added bonus, a new excitement Point Of Grace hadn't known they were lacking. "She's been an inspiration to all of us to work harder at our craft," Heather Payne says.

In addition to a retooled musical approach, the lyrics of Point Of Grace "I Choose You" album underwent a minor overhaul as well, born out of where the women are at in their lives. "We've had experiences that we didn't at 22 or 23," Denise Jones says. "I had a friend pass away and leave a widow with three kids. Those things make you say, "okay, let's stop and take a look at what life's really about.""

"We want to be vulnerable and honest about our feelings," Payne adds. "There are times when I have doubts. I ask why. I suffered a miscarriage. We struggle just like everyone else does..."

With a desire to do something different to end the Point Of Grace "I Choose You" album, A&R Director John Mays discovered a recorded reading from the book Pilgrim's Progress. The group paired it with a song titled "This is Your Land" and provided vocal orchestration beneath the reading for a Point of Grace song like no other.

Producers Wayne Kirkpatrick, David Zaffirro, Mark Hammond and Brent Bourgeois share credit for the project, which also features the more aggressive, vocally powerful track "I Choose You," the disc's first single.
"I always sing the sweet little solos here or there," Jones explains, "but for once I was encouraged to step out of that mold and really sing out and I got to do that on "I Choose You.""

In support of "I Choose You" album, Point of Grace will tour the country on their own tour dates as well as several Girls of Grace conferences.

Point Of Grace "I Choose You" album tracklisting:
1. I Choose You
2. Down
3. Make It Real
4. Worthless
5. Justified
6. Who Am I
7. Do It Again
8. Waiting in the Wings
9. God Is In It
10. For All You've Done
11. Arrival at the City
12. This is Your Land


Amy Grant: Greatest Hits 1986-2004 CD & DVD

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Amy Grant "Greatest Hits 1986-2004" Best Of album will be released by Word Records on October 12. The CD features 17 of Grant's digitally re-mastered pop hits including "Baby Baby," "The Next Time I Fall" and "Every Heartbeat," along with two new recordings, "The Water," produced by Ed Cash (Chris Tomlin, Bebo Norman) and co-written by Amy Grant, with her husband, Vince Gill, on electric guitar, and "Come Be With Me," featuring Keb' Mo', co-written by Beth Nielsen Chapman (Faith Hill’s "This Kiss").

Featuring Amy Grant as executive producer, "Greatest Hits 1986-2004" picks up where her platinum-selling 1987 retrospective, "The Collection," left off. The project represents 15 of Amy Grant's Top 40 AC (Adult Contemporary) hits, nine of which were also pop Top 40 hits as well.

Signed as a 15-year-old, Amy Grant released a series of albums in the late 70's and early 80's that helped invent the Contemporary Christian genre. Innumerable "first-for-a-Christian-artist" landmarks followed, as did Amy Grant's crossover pop stardom, beginning with her 1986 duet with Peter Cetera, "The Next Time I Fall" (#1 pop/#1 AC), from his "Solitude/Solitaire" album. "Saved By Love" (Top 40 AC) and "Lead Me On" are culled from Amy Grant's gold-selling 1988 album, "Lead Me On," that won the fifth of her five Grammy Awards and was named the #1 record in the history of Christian music by CCM Magazine.

Amy Grant "Greatest Hits 1986-2004" album brings together "Baby Baby" (#1 pop/#1 AC), "Every Heartbeat" (#2 pop/#2 AC), "That's What Love Is For" (#7 pop/#1 AC), "Good For Me" (#8 pop/#4 AC) and "I Will Remember You" (#20 pop/#2 AC), all from 1991's "Heart In Motion," Amy Grant's first Top 10 pop album and biggest seller, at five times platinum. The double platinum, Top 20 "House Of Love" (1994) contributes its title track duet with Vince Gill (#37 pop/#5 AC), "Lucky One" (#18 pop/#2 AC) and "The Paradise Mix" of Amy Grant's #18 AC cover of Joni Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi."

After a cover of 10cc's "The Things We Do For Love" (#24 AC) from the soundtrack to Mr. Wrong (1996), "Greatest Hits 1986-2004" continues with "Takes A Little Time" (#21 pop/#4 AC), "Like I Love You" (#10 AC) and "I Will Be Your Friend" (#27 AC) from 1997's gold-selling, Top 10 "Behind The Eyes". Also included is the Top 40 AC title track from 2003's Top 40 album, "Simple Things," Amy Grant's first project of new material in six years. Additionally, "Greatest Hits 1986-2004" includes an exclusive bonus track, "Baby, Baby" ("Heart In Motion Mix").

"This project represents an amazing set of groundbreaking songs," said Word Records president, Barry Landis. "Through her music, Amy Grant paved the way for so many new artists who have a passion for making great music that goes beyond church walls."

Over the course of Amy Grant's career, she has sold over twenty-four million records worldwide, including one quintuple platinum record, a triple platinum record and a double platinum record, as well as six platinum and three gold records. Five of her songs have hit #1 at mainstream radio, in addition to multiple #1 hits at Christian radio. Additionally, her work has been honored with five Grammy Awards, twenty-four Dove Awards and many other accolades, including being nominated into the Gospel Music Hall of Fame in 2003. Amy Grant has also been noted for her humanitarian contributions, receiving among other honors the Pax Christi Award from St. John’s University in 1994.

The release of "Greatest Hits 1986-2004" marks the beginning of a busy fall for Amy Grant, who is set to make numerous television appearances in support of the project including "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" on October 18 and "The View" on October 21. In November, she will launch the "Simply Christmas" Tour with Gill, the Nashville Chamber Orchestra and special guest, comedian Henry Cho.

On October 12, Amy Grant "Greatest Video 1986-2004" DVD will also be released (Universal Music & VI).

Amy Grant "Greatest Hits 1986-2004" Best Of album tracklisting:
Disc: 1
1. The Water - Previously Unreleased
2. Come Be With Me - Previously Unreleased
3. The Next Time I Fall – Duet With Peter Cetera
4. Saved By Love
5. Lead Me On
6. Baby Baby
7. Every Heartbeat
8. That’s What Love Is For
9. Good For Me
10. I Will Remember You
11. Lucky One
12. House Of Love – Duet With Vince Gill
13. Big Yellow Taxi
14. The Things We Do For Love
15. Takes A Little Time
16. Like I Love You
17. I Will Be Your Friend
18. Simple Things
19. Bonus Track: Baby Baby Remix
Disc: 2
1. Every Heartbeat - 7" Body And Soul Mix
2. That’s What Love Is For - 7" Single Mix
3. I Will Remember You - Rhythm Remix
4. House Of Love - duet with Vince Gill - Classic Philly Soul Mix


50th anniversary of the Fender Stratocaster concert with: Joe Walsh (The Eagles), Brian May (Queen), Ron Wood (The Rolling Stones), Gary Moore, Mike Rutherford, David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)...

Last friday at the Wembley Arena in London, an incredible cast of guitarists: Joe Walsh (The Eagles), Brian May (Queen), Ron Wood (The Rolling Stones), Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd), Hank Marvin (The Shadows), Gary Moore and Mike Rutherford (Mike and The Mechanics, Genesis) have celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Fender Stratocaster with a big concert.
David Gilmour played with the first-ever Fender-made 001 model of the guitar.

The concert proceeds went to the Nordoff-Robbins Music Therapy charity. The Nordoff-Robbins approach to music therapy developed from the pioneering work of Paul Nordoff and Clive Robbins in the 1950/60s. It is grounded in the belief that everyone can respond to music, no matter how ill or disabled. The unique qualities of music as therapy can enhance communication, support change, and enable people to live more resourcefully and creatively.


Tom Waits: Real Gone

A new album "Real Gone" for Mister Tom Waits. Tom Waits is set to play his only US live date -- October 18 at the Paramount Theater in Seattle -- following his performance in Vancouver at the Orpheum October 15, which sold out in a record 9 minutes. These shows are essentially warm up dates for Waits' European tour: November 13 in Antwerp (sold out with 52,000 calls for 990 seats), November 15-17 in Berlin (sold out) and November 23 in London (sold out in 30 minutes, 150,000 ticket requests in the first hour). Tickets for the Amsterdam shows November 19-21 will go on sale 10/2.
These shows will all come on the heels of Waits' eagerly anticipated 20th album, "Real Gone," due out October 5 (Epitaph Records) and features musicians from the recording: Larry Taylor on bass, Marc Ribot on guitar and Brain on drums/percussion.

As regards to the Seattle performance, a limited number of tickets will go on sale at midnight October 4 (simultaneously with the sale of the new album) at two Seattle Tower Record locations (5207 Fifth Avenue North and 4518 University Way), while the remainder of the tickets will be made available at the Paramount Box Office and Ticketmaster at 10am October 5. Ticket prices are $65.00, plus service charges.

Meanwhile, initial press reaction for Tom Waits "Real Gone" album is nothing but shining: Entertainment Weekly included the album in its "25 Most Anticipated Albums of the Fall," while Richard Cromelin noted in his Sunday "Calendar" feature in the Los Angeles Times: "Real Gone ... Raw, rustic, primal and immediate, it's a leap in the mud ... " Also, in the current issue of Thrasher, Eben Sterling mused: "Real Gone ... is an amalgam of earthy funk, beatnik howl, and backwoods river bottom blues. Waits' music seems to seep from the subconscious, while his lyrics pinpoint humanity often cloaked in shadow," while Mark Richardson in Paste extolled: "... much of Real Gone is loud, rude and in your face ... packed with memorable phrases and strange-yet-familiar poetic imagery ... down into that strange and dazzling mineshaft."

Look for Tom Waits to possibly tour the US early next year. Tom Waits will be on the Late Show with David Letterman Tuesday, September 28.


Joan Osborne new projects

Do you remember Joan Osborne? She delivered us a smash hit "(What if God Was) One Of Us?" in the mid-1990s. Yeah, that's her. But where has she been since her meteoric rise back in the day? The short answer: everywhere and nowhere.

Despite the popular illusion that she fell off the face of the earth following the smash hit, Osborne has been anything but dormant. Since Relish, her 1995 break-through album, Joan Osborne has been extremely productive, spending the past several years recording, collaborating, publishing, touring, performing and nw preparing to become a mother.

In the past few years, Osborne released 3 albums: "Early Recordings" (1996), "Righteous Love" (2000) and "How Sweet It Is" (2002). She also participated in several compilation recordings, documentaries and traveled to India to perform at a benefit concert for Tibetan relief. She went to Cuba to join other Americans in an international collaboration with Cuban musicians.

Lately, Joan Osborne developed an interest in publishing, launching her own Internet magazine called, "Heroine," which covers "cool women doing inspiring things."

Most recently, however, Joan Osborne has been touring in support of her latest album, "How Sweet It Is". This album is a collection of covers of mid-'60s Soul songs by such artists as Marvin Gaye, Otis Redding ("These Arms of Mine"), Stevie Wonder ("Love's In Need of Love"), Aretha Franklin, & The Family Stone, The Spinners, Jimi Hendrix...

Joan Osborne will release a new album next year but it is already completed.


Little Feat new projects and a current tour

Little Fear is going to record a new album with Buffett soon, and their annual fan excursion to Jamaica is on tap for January. Bill Payne just put out a solo album, and Kenny Gradney is working on a new solo album. In between all that, the members will continue to tour.

Little Feat current tour dates:
Sep 30 - Nissan Pavilion - Bristow, VA
Oct 1 - Rockin at the River - Danville, VA
Oct 2 - Stone Mt. Park, Miller Lite Chili Cookoff - Atlanta, GA
Oct 3 - Union Station Train Shed RiverJam - Montgomery, AL
Nov 5 - Boothbay Opera House - Boothbay Harbor, ME
Nov 6 - Criterion Theater - Bar Harbor, ME
Nov 8 - Phoenix Concert Theatre - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Nov 9 - Capital Music Hall - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Nov 10 - Downtown - Farmingdale, NY
Nov 12 - Rams Head - Annapolis, MD
Nov 13 - Rams Head - Annapolis, MD
Nov 14 - Mohegan Sun Casino - Uncasville, CT
Nov 16 - Count Basie Theatre - Red Bank, NJ
Nov 18 - Birchmere - Alexandria, VA
Nov 19 - Keswick Theatre - Glenside, PA
Nov 20 - BB King's - New York, NY


Authentic Voice feat. Jim Photoglo and Tom Kimmel

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One of the great event of the legendary Nashville BlueBird Cafe in September was the "Authentic Voice" CD release party Sept. 18 of "Authentic Voice" a Best Of CD that feat. many artists supported by Katy Estrin (Management). Our good friend Jim Photoglo and Tom Kimmel are on it and did the gig too.

This 23-track release represents the majority of musicians that worked with manager/consultant Kari Estrin over the last calendar year. Her first compilation CD includes 21 artists and is being released this fall. All of the tracks were culled from the artists' own recording projects, with the exception of two recently recorded songs from Montreal-based roots artist Rob Lutes.

On "Authentic Voice" you'll hear a wide variety of musical textures, sequenced for listening to from start to finish. Although picking just one track to represent an artist is a challenge, the selections were made to work together as one project. Sometimes a song was specifically chosen from a previous artist's CD, included because it highlights a particular side to an artist's performance or writing, or because it features exceptional performance and production.

Whether it's a track from the popular Appalachian duo, Zoe Speaks, Seattle-based Kathryn Mostow entreating us to remember there's more to life than our daily routines, Erica Wheeler's fun and sassy "Hot," or the Celtic/Medieval harmonies of Mad Agnes, there's much to discover with these performances. It could be Dana Cooper's energizing track "Harry Truman Built a Road," Cosy Sheridan's soothing voice, thoughtful lyrics and graceful guitar in "The Pomegranate Seed," Tom Kimmel's gospel-flavored track "Cryin' Ground," or even the pristinely delivered, yet honeyed vocals of Lisa Moscatiello that perhaps will have you searching through your collections for their recent releases.

There's also a wealth of good writing and artists that may be new to you – Rain Perry's "Yosemite" won the John Lennon songwriting contest in 2000. Michael Veitch offers political commentary in "In the Sanctuary," Dale Keys delivers an Americana ballad with "The Leavin' Train," Rob Lutes's stand out performance of "Throw Me From the Train" and his French composition, "Le Jour," as well as the evocative ballads of David Llewellyn, with "Maybe Tomorrow" and "Bugeilio'r Gwenith Gwyn" (sung partly in Welsh) give you a taste of what's to come from these artists.

You may already be familiar with Jim Photoglo from Run C & W, doing the exquisite "A Job Well Done." There's also the fabulous duet of Tom Prasado-Rao and Cary Cooper a.k.a. The Dreamsicles, the adept guitar and vocals from the Bay area's Judith-Kate Friedman, and the memorable "Precious Days" from Jenn Adams's groundbreaking "In The Pool" CD. Authentic Voice is rounded out with the resophonic guitar instrumental of Chicago-based John Hasbrouck, Kerrville New Folk winner, Nina Adel's "Footsteps," Randy Fulk's "The Last Song" and "And The Spirit Sings" from Santa Cruz-based Ginny Mitchell.

More information at Kari Estrin Management & Consulting website. Kari Estrin Management & Consulting PO Box 60232 Nashville, TN 37206, U.S.A.




Bob Dylan: Chronicles, Volume One

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Bob Dylan memoir book "Chronicles, Volume One" (published Oct. 5 on Simon & Schuster) is exclusively excerpted in the October 4 Newsweek cover, "Bob Dylan Opens Up" (on newsstands Monday, September 27), Bob Dylan writes about being called the conscience of a generation. "That was funny. All I'd ever done was sing songs that were dead straight and expressed powerful new realities. I had very little in common with and knew even less about a generation that I was supposed to be the voice of."

Bob Dylan writes that he wanted a "nine-to-five existence, a house on a tree- lined block with a white picket fence, pink roses in the backyard. That would have been nice. That was my deepest dream. After a while you learn that privacy is something you can sell, but you can't buy it back."

In the memoir, Bob Dylan writes about how getting married and having children changed his life, making him want to get out of the rat race. "I found myself stuck in Woodstock, vulnerable and with a family to protect. If you looked in the press, though, you saw me being portrayed as anything but that. It was surprising how thick the smoke had become. It seems like the world has always needed a scapegoat-someone to lead the charge against the Roman Empire. But America wasn't the Roman Empire and someone else would have to step up and volunteer."

He writes about his first house in Woodstock, which once was a quiet refuge, but no more after he arrived. "Roadmaps to our homestead must have been posted in all fifty states for gangs of dropouts and druggies. Moochers showed up from as far away as California on pilgrimages. Goons were breaking into our place all hours of the night. At first, it was merely the nomadic homeless making illegal entry-seemed harmless enough, but then rogue radicals looking for the Prince of Protest began to arrive-unaccountable-looking characters, gargoyle-looking gals, scarecrows, stragglers looking to party, raid the pantry."

"Peter LaFarge, a folksinger friend of mine, had given me a couple of Colt single-shot repeater pistols, and I also had a clip-fed Winchester blasting rifle around, but it was awful to think about what could be done with those things. The authorities, the chief of police (Woodstock had about three cops) had told me that if anyone was shot accidentally or even shot at as a warning, it would be me that would be going to the lockup. Not only that, but creeps thumping their boots across our roof could even take me to court if any of them fell off. This was so unsettling. I wanted to set fire to these people. These gate-crashers, spooks, trespassers, demagogues were all disrupting my home life and the fact that I was not to piss them off or they could press charges really didn't appeal to me. Each day and night was fraught with difficulties. Everything was wrong, the world was absurd. It was backing me into a corner. Even persons near and dear offered no relief."

Dylan takes some shots at how his music was interpreted by critics and the interpretations of his lyrics. "For sure my lyrics had struck nerves that had never been struck before, but...whatever the counterculture was, I'd seen enough of it. I was sick of the way my lyrics had been extrapolated, their meanings subverted into polemics and that I had been anointed as the Big Bubba of Rebellion, High Priest of Protest, the Czar of Dissent, the Duke of Disobedience, Leader of the Freeloaders, Kaiser of Apostasy, Archbishop of Anarchy, the Big Cheese. What the hell are we talking about? Horrible titles any way you want to look at it. All code words for Outlaw."

He writes: "As long as my own form of certainty stayed intact, I owed nobody nothing. I wasn't going to go deeper into the darkness for anybody. I was already living in the darkness. My family was my light and I was going to protect that light at all cost. That was where my dedication was, first, last and everything in-between. What did I owe the rest of the world? Nothing. Not a damn thing. The press? I figured you lie to it. For the public eye, I went into the bucolic and mundane as far as possible. In my real life I got to do the things that I loved the best and that was all that mattered-the Little League games, birthday parties, taking my kids to school, camping trips, boating, rafting, canoeing, fishing...I was living on record royalties. In reality I was imperceptible, my image, that is. Sometime in the past I had written and performed songs that were most original and most influential, and I didn't know if I ever would again and I didn't care."


Joss Stone: Mind, Body And Soul

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"For me, personally, Mind, Body and Soul is my real debut." Joss Stone's words may come as a surprise to fans of the seventeen-year-old singer from Devon, England: Her first S-Curve recording, "The Soul Sessions," established Joss Stone as perhaps the most precociously gifted vocalist of her generation. But that September 2003 release, Joss Stone admits, "started out as a side project and turned into this huge thing."

"I didn't mean it to," she adds with a cheerfully self-deprecating laugh, "but people just kept buying it."

Some of those buyers were intrigued by the disc's surprising selection of rarely-covered soul gems. Others were converted by heavy VH1/MTV/MTV2 airplay for her first video, "Fell in Love with a Boy," or by Joss Stone's increasingly confident and exciting live shows. Still more were won over by her scintillating performances on NBC's "The Tonight Show" and the ABC network special Motown 45; and by the inclusion of Stone songs in such popular television series as "The West Wing," "ER," and "Third Watch."

By the summer of 2004, "The Soul Sessions" was certified gold in the US (with sales in excess of 675,000 units) and had sold more than two million copies worldwide. The disc reached Number One on Billboard's "Heatseekers" chart in February 2004; breached the US Top 40 in April '04, and hit the Top Ten in thirteen countries around the world.

Listen to the dynamic and assured performances that comprise "Mind, Body and Soul" - from the feverish first single "You Had Me" to the playful dance track "Don't Cha Wanna Ride" to the impassioned rock-soul ballad "Killing Time." Then recall that when Joss Stone came to the New York-based S-Curve label, she had never made a record or performed with a live band before a live audience. What she did have - to quote Joss Stone's co-writer, vocal arranger and mentor Betty Wright - was "a God-given gift," a voice of un­common strength, soulfulness, and sensitivity.

Joss Stone "Mind, Body & Soul" album is released on S-Curve Records on September 28.

The first single "You Had Me" was recorded August 14, 2003 in New York City by a band including legendary Nile Rodgers on guitar, Jack Daley on bass, and Cindy Blackman on drums.

Producer Steve Greenberg remembers, "They played the song live in the studio for nearly fifteen minutes - it just kept going and going because the vibe was so exciting. Finally, the musicians finished this incredible take - which we knew was the keeper - and we pushed the "Save" button on the computer. Literally two seconds after that button was pushed, the lights went out in the studio. Betty Wright said, "You guys funked so hard, you blew the lights out!" Little did we know that we were in the middle of the Great Eastern Blackout of 2003. If the band had played for even another 30 seconds, we wouldn't have been able to hit the "Save" button—and this magical take would have been lost forever."

About the song's theme Joss Stone says, "I don't hate on people, but I don't take s**t either. I don't want to be walked all over—no woman does. So "You Had Me" is one for the girls."

Joss Stone "Mind, Body & Soul" album tracklisting:
1. Right To Be Wrong
2. Jet Lag
3. You Had Me
4. Spoiled
5. Don't Cha Wanna Ride
6. Less Is More
7. Security
8. Young At Heart
9. Snakes And Ladders
10. Understand
11. Don't Know How
12. Torn & Tattered
13. Killing Time
14. Sleep Like A Child


The Polar Express Soundtrack will feat. Josh Groban and Steven Styler (from Aerosmith)

"The Polar Express" (Warner Bros) is in theaters November 10th. It is one of the most eagerly anticipated films of this holiday season that reunites the Academy Award-winning team of Tom Hanks and director Robert Zemeckis for an inspiring adventure based on the beloved children's book by Chris Van Allsburg. Employing an innovative blend of next-generation motion capture technology known as performance capture, with state-of-the-art digital animation, "The Polar Express" combines classic storytelling with cutting-edge filmmaking.

This spirit is also captured on the soundtrack of this extraordinary film event. "The Polar Express: The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" will be in stores on November 2nd (Warner Sunset/Reprise Records). It not only features six Christmas classics, including Bing Crosby's perennial "White Christmas," but also boasts six brand new selections written and performed especially for the film by five-time Grammy Award-winning composer and producer Glen Ballard and Academy Award-nominated film score composer Alan Silvestri. Additionally, the Warner Sunset / Reprise Records release features a new recording, "Believe," by vocal phenomenon Josh Groban, plus performances by Aerosmith's Steven Tyler and Tom Hanks in his major motion picture singing debut.

Ballard and Silvestri originals on "The Polar Express: The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" include "Hot Chocolate" and "The Polar Express" as performed by Tom Hanks; a Josh Groban rendition of "Believe" and a rollicking "Rockin' On Top Of The World" sung by Steven Tyler. Also included is an Alan Silvestri performance of "Spirit Of The Season" and "When Christmas Comes To Town" as performed by Matthew Hall and Meagan Moore. The soundtrack also spotlights two orchestral compositions by Silvestri, "Suite From The Polar Express" and "Seeing Is Believing."

Among the Christmas classics heard on "The Polar Express: The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" are the above mentioned "White Christmas" by Bing Crosby, "Winter Wonderland" by The Andrews Sisters, Kate Smith's "Silver Bells," "It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas" as performed by Perry Como and The Fontaine Sisters, Frank Sinatra's rendition of "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" and "Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane)" by Bing Crosby and The Andrews Sisters.